Aie… RIP to the departed. I didn’t know any of them personally, but seeing any rider down is never a good thing.
As for risking your life on a bike… life is all risk, and just being able to accept a certain level of risk for your activities. Everyone accepts a different level depending on their personality and their life. While Newman is probably one of the biggest risk takers on here; I’m sure if he had a kid to take care of it would get turned down somewhat (correct me if I’m wrong here).
I rode bikes when I was younger, have my license, and am craving getting back on 2 wheels like crazy… but… Seeing I’m about to become a Father in about 2 months, that’s not going to happen for a few years at least. Going to have something more important than riding a bike.
Definitely a lot worse that one of the guys had someone on the back, but you don’t live in a vaccuum. It’s your life, but if you off yourself doing something stupid you’ll probably leave a lot of hurt people behind.
You guys need to stop saying it’s so easy to do 100 mph. The hand of God doesn’t crank your throttle over, you do. If you can’t control your speed you shouldn’t be on a fast bike. In the dark. In a group. In traffic. With passengers. With damaged equipment.
I mean, don’t get me wrong. This is really sad. Some good dudes made some honest mistakes and paid the ultimate price. I’ve made similar mistakes but have been lucky enough to get away with it, but these poor guys didn’t. I’m just playing the crusty-old-man-personal-responsibility-don’t-you-dare-make-excuses-when-you-have-zero-margin-for-error angle because I grew up with good riding role models and so that’s what’s burned into my skull. :shrug:
RIP and God bless those left behind. The poor girl in the hospital will be carrying this with her for the rest of her life, even if she has no lasting injuries.
Jose Amaro, 29, of Lackawanna and Richard Caramazza, 27, of Amherst…
A State Trooper got a radar reading in excess of 80 miles per hour on one of the cyclists, but when he turned on his light to attempt a traffic stop, several of the bikers sped up to speeds estimated at 100 miles per hour, says Amhrest Police Captain Patrick McKenna.
The trooper turned his lights off, and called Amherst Police to warn that the group was heading their way. Within minutes, the trooper came upon the accident scene, and directed traffic until Amherst Police arrived.
Police are still looking for witnesses. One truck driver isn’t sure what happened; three bikes passed him at a fast rate of speed, and then one wound up underneath his trailer.
The 290 was closed from approx. 10:30 last night until after 5 Wednesday morning.
Tori Aceti, 21, of Niagara Falls a passenger on Amaro’s bike, is in stable condition in ECMC.
The Amherst Police report says Amaro and Caramazza were part of a group of as many as 10 motorcyclists travelling together. They are asking anyone who witnessed the accident, or was a part of that group of bikers, to call them at 689-1311.
Sorry, but These are the consequences when you try to run. You tried once, it didnt work… Why try again a year later. Stupid… and to have kids and try to run, even more dumb.
sorry if it sounds harsh being he passed away. again thoughts to his friends and family, but stupid decision.
Don’t worry, those of us that knew these two personally know the whole story and all have same thoughts I’m sure. I don’t really care too much about what the news is going to say, what any of you are going to say, or even what many of my co-workers are going to say. We all lost two good friends last night, I think that’s all I really give a shit about right now.
It’s really easy to point fingers. I know that I do it. But a lot of us probably do really dumb stuff, or have, and just don’t realize how dumb it was at the time…
They are asking anyone who witnessed the accident, or was a part of that group of bikers, to call them at 689-1311
I’m going to offer you some free life advice. If you were part of that group, DO NOT talk to the police. If they track you down, simply tell them you have nothing to say without speaking to a lawyer.
I said the same thing in the thread about the street racing Neon and Mustang fatality only to have a law clerk say “oh, nothing can happen to the kid in the neon for talking to the police” and that kid ended up with serious jail time. This isn’t some speeding ticket; two people are dead and anything you say casually to the police is going to be on record.
RIP - I kind of knew rich when he had his 350Z. I remember him hanging out with us a couple times.
Just the other day in slow traffic on the 190 some ass-hat biker decided it was a good idea to rip through between two cars at about 80 mph on a two lane section. :tdown:
Agree completely. I still do dumb stuff from time to time, and that’s why I have a motorcycle license and no motorcycle anymore. Yes, you can die speeding in a car, but you still have massive amounts of safety systems and engineering on your side. There’s just no margin for error on a bike. One mistake, even if it’s by another driver, and it’s goodbye life. It was an acceptable risk when I saw single, not now.
Jumped on here to see if they were members, it has been a while indeed. Anyway sorry to their families but what the fuck doing 100+ running from a cop with a passenger? And people wonder why guys on sport bikes get a bad reputation. I’m amazed to see idiots riding in shorts and tshirts and a $500 helmet… RIP guys but Im more sorry for their families.