Bolt stuck inside turbo extension

[mr200]

Tangent … heh, do you read the posts? Even my best tangents I try to include something at least relevant to the topic.

If we want to be technical, I am not a builder or an engineer by trade. If you’ve been building cars for 20 years, that likely makes you at least 10 years older than me. Which only serves to amuse me further.

In my “naievety and ignorance” even a lowly schlep such as myself is aware that e-bickering will not under any circumstance enhance my anatomy.

Now, to take a contrary position … a neophyte member feeling the need to waffle throughout as many posts about himself, his immense knowledge of
OEM parts :roll:, the automotive industry, fluid dynamics, taking only negative, uncreative and closed minded “my way or the highyway” approach, making leaps and bounds to make his “infinite wisdom” apply to the discussion, discrediting what is seen time and time again through experience … if we’re going to be picky, I’d say would be far more indicative of “why is there so much room built into men’s jeans” syndrome.

You have missed or chosen to ignore the simple fact.

Having a slight leak (as to the gasket issue, mine has one, DETS14s has one, others too) is going to affect the performance of his car negatively how?

He can have the car back together and on the road in a fraction of the time, and get back to driving his car. Or he can pull his turbo, likely break a cooling or oil line, strip a stud out of the head, and have his car off the road for an even longer period of time. All why? So he can not run the scary risk of having a small exhaust leak?

Cutting corners can be dangerous sure … but this is exhaust. No, I wouldn’t reccomend putting a caliper back on with one bolt.

And no, the pattern is not circular, but the overall shape and function of an 02 housing would make it pretty silly to try and make the connection circular.

Should we all dissassemble every part on our car daily to inspect for wear and tear because the auto industry apparently can’t make a part worth a shit? How would you counteract that?

If DETS14 puts his extension back on with 4 bolts to TRY IT OUT, he can judge for himself whether or not it would be worth spending the money and time. It’s an enormous risk I know … exhaust leaks are nothing to kid around with.

I’m far from ignorant when it comes to the automotive industry. I have faith in what I have seen in practice. If you have no faith in parts, how do you ever take pleasure in driving? Aren’t you paralyzed with fear that any and every part on your car was built with marginal tolerances at best? Should he get a new 02 housing and tap it for 5 more bolts being enlightened now and “go beyond OEM build quality?”

I don’t understand your argument. [/list]

[rotorkami_wa]

… it’s pretty obvious you don’t understand

my 10 years more of doing this ,is only amusing… not perhaps, that I’ve learned a bit more then you … which it apparently should be.

closeminded ’ my way or hwy’ was never mentioned, the fact that I choose to build beyond OEM specs., Have baced up WHY I do so, seems to put you in a frame of mind of, ’ elitist snob or scientific buffoon…’ with no clue other then to postulate on how ’ non inclusive I seem to be " . then including some oblique and inane comment about why I’m not frozen in fear to drive… You choose to ignore the fact that a car will be safe to the point they build it to but degrading the structure of any part of the car is dangerous. and stupid.

If you feel that it’s cool to let your car fall out of OEM integrity that’s your choice, (your choice of avatar makes it clear that your happy with broken and busted parts… ), but don’t pan your lax and uneducated ( unsibstatiated and unproven) concepts about how sfe it is to run around without bolts on the car, regardless of where it’s located… I personally don’t give a crap about where it’s located, as iv’e said THREE TIMES NOW ( idiot ) his response and behaviour is indicative of his overall opinion of car matinence . hence my comment… if you have trouble with that concept I think I have a speak & spell that will help you understand it in simple one syllable words.
:!: THis was funny for a post or two , now I’m realizing that you are this thick. and that this will all be erased in a few hrs.

[DETS14]

lol, just end this.

[mr200]

Hehehe … you’re cute.

You don’t get it at all do you? I do understand what you’re saying, and I have from the start. It just amuses me to no end to watch you continually defeat your own arguments.

Let’s go here

“closeminded ’ my way or hwy’ was never mentioned, the fact that I choose to build beyond OEM specs., Have baced up WHY I do so, seems to put you in a frame of mind of, ’ elitist snob or scientific buffoon…’”

You haven’t backed it up beyond saying it’s your opinion.

And that I’m an idiot for disagreeing with your opinion.

"but don’t pan your lax and uneducated ( unsibstatiated and unproven) concepts about how sfe it is to run around without bolts on the car, regardless of where it’s located… I personally don’t give a crap about where it’s located, as iv’e said THREE TIMES NOW ( idiot ) his response and behaviour is indicative of his overall opinion of car matinence . "

So when people’s opinions don’t agree with yours you get your panties in a bunch?

uhm … does your Speak and Spell have a dictionary function?

Look up elitist and snob

And maybe you’ll understand why I’m in a mindset of “elitist snob” but never scientific buffoon. I know a lot of scientific people, who understand that without experimentation, science wouldn’t exist.

“I personally don’t give a crap about where it’s located, as iv’e said THREE TIMES NOW ( idiot )”

The whole entire point of the argument is that it in fact does matter where the bolt is located, and you should give a crap. There are certain parts of the car, when you understand and appreciate their function, you can apply this thing called “common sense.”

Repeating, or putting an argument in all caps doesn’t make it valid.

"a car will be safe to the point they build it to but degrading the structure of any part of the car is dangerous. and stupid. "

I’ll remember that the next time I roll my car, and the exhaust leak between the turbo and o2 housing “degrades the structure” to the point the roof collapses and I die. You can come by the accident scene with a big ol’ “I told you so.”

And I will hang my head from the heaven’s above … if only I’d listened.

Boosted and Busted … LOL. Of all measures to judge a man, his avatar.

Should I put my old one back? I made that avatar a while ago when my car was in fact “boosted and busted” because of failed OEM parts. I know I should have removed my turbo to look at the condition of the factory exhaust manifold, knowing factory parts are so prone to failure. But alas and alack, I didn’t. Woe is me.

[rotorkami_wa]

@mr200

Hehehe … you’re cute.

You don’t get it at all do you? I do understand what you’re saying, and I have from the start. It just amuses me to no end to watch you continually defeat your own arguments.

Let’s go here

You haven’t backed it up beyond saying it’s your opinion.

no ? the fact that I’ve been doing this for 20 years and the fact that millions of OEM parts to be tested/speced/rejected/sorted/discarded, the fat aht i’ve been inside the development and design of spec parts from these companies, is a lack of basis for me to able to judge ?? give it a rest. I’m pretty sure that gives me at least a modicum of insight…

And that I’m an idiot for disagreeing with your opinion.

no, your an idot for not reading what was posted in the first place, then making stupid asumptions…

"but don’t pan your lax and uneducated ( unsibstatiated and unproven) concepts about how sfe it is to run around without bolts on the car, regardless of where it’s located… I personally don’t give a crap about where it’s located, as iv’e said THREE TIMES NOW ( idiot ) his response and behaviour is indicative of his overall opinion of car matinence . "

So when people’s opinions don’t agree with yours you get your panties in a bunch?

no when people don’t read what’s said then reply to what they apparently skimmed over… then your opinion is moot.

uhm … does your Speak and Spell have a dictionary function?

Look up elitist and snob
And maybe you’ll understand why I’m in a mindset of “elitist snob” but never scientific buffoon. I know a lot of scientific people, who understand that without experimentation, science wouldn’t exist.

well this goes to show that you chose to skim not actually read anything… if you’d read the identifier you’d see that it was how you refferred to me in earlier posts… seriously i’d never propose that you were either elitist or scientific in ANY manner…

The whole entire point of the argument is that it in fact does matter where the bolt is located, and you should give a crap. There are certain parts of the car, when you understand and appreciate their function, you can apply this thing called “common sense.”

Repeating, or putting an argument in all caps doesn’t make it valid.

apparently it does , as you finially read it… also common sense dictates that you really try to take care of a 1.5 ton object hurtling down the road that you happen to be in… or does this not qualify in the realm of your edition of 'common sense. ’

I’ll remember that the next time I roll my car, and the exhaust leak between the turbo and o2 housing “degrades the structure” to the point the roof collapses and I die. You can come by the accident scene with a big ol’ “I told you so.”

what you need to do is stop appling your own context to what’s been said and the context it came from but i’m sure that the housing will be great after all it’s only a high pressure ,high heat leack on a cast object that, if you read earlier can cause cracks… which of course then lead to larger cracks and of course lead to something called a ‘grenade’. but hey, it’s your own call… but i have my own opinion on it…

And I will hang my head from the heaven’s above … if only I’d listened.

Boosted and Busted … LOL. Of all measures to judge a man, his avatar.

Should I put my old one back? I made that avatar a while ago when my car was in fact “boosted and busted” because of failed OEM parts. I know I should have removed my turbo to look at the condition of the factory exhaust manifold, knowing factory parts are so prone to failure. But alas and alack, I didn’t. Woe is me.

knowing is 1/2 the battle…

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[TM1]

Roto,

Let them halfass the job, screw up their investment, and ultimately create a larger problem for themselves…

Someday they’ll realize it’s the difference between winning, and getting a DNF…

Then again they don’t race so what do they care…

[DTS]

because i drove for 2 weeks with an exhaust leak at the turbo to turbo extension where you are telling him to have one i will say this

1st.
it is DANGEROUS, all kinds of exhaust gasses and fumes enterd the inside of my car and i was forced to always drive with the sunroof open and windows down. if the windows were closed it would make me light headed and after a 2 hour drive i was nautious and light headed by the time i got home with the windows down.

definatly cool to tell members to do this!!! :roll:

2nd.
it is EXTREMLY loud and sounds like SHIT. and leaves carbon deposits in the engine bay

3rd.

it sounds like SHIT outside the car like a dirty tractor

4th.

its stuipd do the job the right way i know mark and he dosent do halfassed work.

now i will illistrate for all the rice cannons on this forum who dont understand

Halfassed work:

Good work:

now close this thread this one actually deserves to be locked