I am the LAW: 3 states now illegal to record on-duty police officer in public.

Have fun getting arrested! :lol:lol

FYI two of those cases involved motorcycles. Some of you might have seen the video of one cop pulling gun on a speeder, and one got shot behind the back sitting on a motorcycle.

In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer.

Even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.

The legal justification for arresting the “shooter” rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway. Since the police do not consent, the camera-wielder can be arrested. Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where “no expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.

Massachusetts attorney June Jensen represented Simon Glik who was arrested for such a recording. She explained, “[T]he statute has been misconstrued by Boston police. You could go to the Boston Common and snap pictures and record if you want.” Legal scholar and professor Jonathan Turley agrees, “The police are basing this claim on a ridiculous reading of the two-party consent surveillance law - requiring all parties to consent to being taped. I have written in the area of surveillance law and can say that this is utter nonsense.”

The courts, however, disagree. A few weeks ago, an Illinois judge rejected a motion to dismiss an eavesdropping charge against Christopher Drew, who recorded his own arrest for selling one-dollar artwork on the streets of Chicago. Although the misdemeanor charges of not having a peddler’s license and peddling in a prohibited area were dropped, Drew is being prosecuted for illegal recording, a Class I felony punishable by 4 to 15 years in prison.

In 2001, when Michael Hyde was arrested for criminally violating the state’s electronic surveillance law - aka recording a police encounter - the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court upheld his conviction 4-2. In dissent, Chief Justice Margaret Marshall stated, “Citizens have a particularly important role to play when the official conduct at issue is that of the police. Their role cannot be performed if citizens must fear criminal reprisals….” (Note: In some states it is the audio alone that makes the recording illegal.)

The selection of “shooters” targeted for prosecution do, indeed, suggest a pattern of either reprisal or an attempt to intimidate.

Glik captured a police action on his cellphone to document what he considered to be excessive force. He was not only arrested, his phone was also seized.

On his website Drew wrote, “Myself and three other artists who documented my actions tried for two months to get the police to arrest me for selling art downtown so we could test the Chicago peddlers license law. The police hesitated for two months because they knew it would mean a federal court case. With this felony charge they are trying to avoid this test and ruin me financially and stain my credibility.”

Hyde used his recording to file a harassment complaint against the police. After doing so, he was criminally charged.

In short, recordings that are flattering to the police - an officer kissing a baby or rescuing a dog - will almost certainly not result in prosecution even if they are done without all-party consent. The only people who seem prone to prosecution are those who embarrass or confront the police, or who somehow challenge the law. If true, then the prosecutions are a form of social control to discourage criticism of the police or simple dissent.

A recent arrest in Maryland is both typical and disturbing.

On March 5, 24-year-old Anthony John Graber III’s motorcycle was pulled over for speeding. He is currently facing criminal charges for a video he recorded on his helmet-mounted camera during the traffic stop.

The case is disturbing because:

  1. Graber was not arrested immediately. Ten days after the encounter, he posted some of he material to YouTube, and it embarrassed Trooper J. D. Uhler. The trooper, who was in plainclothes and an unmarked car, jumped out waving a gun and screaming. Only later did Uhler identify himself as a police officer. When the YouTube video was discovered the police got a warrant against Graber, searched his parents’ house (where he presumably lives), seized equipment, and charged him with a violation of wiretapping law.

  2. Baltimore criminal defense attorney Steven D. Silverman said he had never heard of the Maryland wiretap law being used in this manner. In other words, Maryland has joined the expanding trend of criminalizing the act of recording police abuse. Silverman surmises, “It’s more [about] ‘contempt of cop’ than the violation of the wiretapping law.”

  3. Police spokesman Gregory M. Shipley is defending the pursuit of charges against Graber, denying that it is “some capricious retribution” and citing as justification the particularly egregious nature of Graber’s traffic offenses. Oddly, however, the offenses were not so egregious as to cause his arrest before the video appeared.

Almost without exception, police officials have staunchly supported the arresting officers. This argues strongly against the idea that some rogue officers are overreacting or that a few cops have something to hide. “Arrest those who record the police” appears to be official policy, and it’s backed by the courts.

Carlos Miller at the Photography Is Not A Crime website offers an explanation: “For the second time in less than a month, a police officer was convicted from evidence obtained from a videotape. The first officer to be convicted was New York City Police Officer Patrick Pogan, who would never have stood trial had it not been for a video posted on Youtube showing him body slamming a bicyclist before charging him with assault on an officer. The second officer to be convicted was Ottawa Hills (Ohio) Police Officer Thomas White, who shot a motorcyclist in the back after a traffic stop, permanently paralyzing the 24-year-old man.”

When the police act as though cameras were the equivalent of guns pointed at them, there is a sense in which they are correct. Cameras have become the most effective weapon that ordinary people have to protect against and to expose police abuse. And the police want it to stop.

Happily, even as the practice of arresting “shooters” expands, there are signs of effective backlash. At least one Pennsylvania jurisdiction has reaffirmed the right to video in public places. As part of a settlement with ACLU attorneys who represented an arrested “shooter,” the police in Spring City and East Vincent Township adopted a written policy allowing the recording of on-duty policemen.

As journalist Radley Balko declares, “State legislatures should consider passing laws explicitly making it legal to record on-duty law enforcement officials.”

Wendy McElroy is the author of several books on anarchism and feminism. She maintains the iconoclastic website ifeminists.net as well as an active blog at wendymcelroy.com.

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Bullshit, why do they need to hide anything if they are not doing anything wrong?

So if I get stopped for something in one of those states and the cop car is running a camera, I can pretty much tell the cop “I do not consent to being recorded” and his video is useless in court (since it was illegal)? I know the cop won’t give a shit but in theory it looks like they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

WTF that is such bullshit

I’m moving to AZ

Police being scumbags? I dont believe it

this is why i laugh when people say we live in a free country, and i blame people that thought it was a good idea after 9/11 to take away freedoms for the greater saftey of america. all it set up was an easy way for the government to take away more freedoms. this is nobody’s fault except the average citizen.

I thought when all the cars started getting video cameras it was for the “officers saftey”? To convict someone who shoots at them or fights them, hits them with a car passing by… etc.

YOU STUPID FUCKING PIGS. by taking away the cameras, sure you can punch me in the face and get away with it, but when I drive by in my car while your pulling someone over and smack you with my car and drive off, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROVE IT???

once again, this fucked up country fails becaue of: improper work ethic, corruption winning over morality and good people are falling due to bad peoples mistakes.

This is ridiculous. You can’t tape someone (officer) in the act of them disobeying the law without their permission?

This law is still in its infancy as far as the purpose they are using it for. It is starting to get attention now and it won’t be long before the Constitutional Lawyers beat it down.

Welcome to totalitarian government.

Cops ≥ Law

were Schenectady cops the first thing that came to anybody’s else’s mind after reading the thread title?

No… This isn’t in regards to removing the cameras from the cop cars, it’s saying that YOU can’t record the cops without them knowing…

speed cameras.

Yet they are not allowed to consent so therefore you can’t record them period

Un-Real… Specially for events like the lake george nationals where there are cameras going EVERYWHERE, you’re bound to pick up a cop…

I know it’s not in NY, I was just using that as an example.

this is not acceptable… if your on a public street you should be able to record anything you want OR if its on your own property…

Cops need to uphold the law AT ALL TIMES… Its the oath they took when they were sworn in. I have a Criminal Justice degree and I had every intention of becoming a cop until all this shit hit the fan… NO WAY… Its just not worth the $ to be ripped apart for everything you do…

So when I get pulled over with my in car camera on, I’ll ask the office to sign a wavier when he comes to my window. :lol

So if he walks up to the window and I say is your in car video camera on, and they say yes, I can just say I dont consent to it and then act all sketchy. He will want to remove me from the car i bet, and then he will fear for himself if i am acting strange, not want to take the camera offline and will let me go becasue if I bug out nothing is there to see it.

Thats the best point anyone can make. It cant be written with execptions, becasue that would be one big loop hole. My security cam in my store, if it faces the road a little and a cop drives by, is it illegal? What if a cop beats someone down in my gas station parking lot and I get it on my security camera? What about all the highway traffic cam’s, hell those you can watch on the internet live! will they have to be turned off?

Someone in those states should put a camera on a tripod on my front lawn. Drive up and down the road till a cop comes and do a burnout and get pulled over. then try to get his ass kicked on tape on private property.