Looks like thats the only to go unless u are driving a domestic
I don’t know when cops got their mechanics certification. for all i know, they can pull me over in my RX-8 for no specific reason because of “suspicion”. they wouldn’t be able to tell an after market kit from a OEM kit for my car. My House mate has it even worse, he doesn’t even dare drive his FC right now because of the exhaust. Its stupid.
They may as well start giving tickets to people smoking, because it endangers the lives of others and who knows how many people die of smoking but I’ve yet to see someone get ticketed for smoking since the last law passed that prevented people from smoking 20 feet near the entrance to a building.
I looked on the TSC forums and a lot of them are getting nailed hard because of their external mods
haha this law is mad jokes man, like alesserfate said its even more funny
“on suspicion” is such bullshit.
Until someone actually does something they should be not even bothered, this is harassment of the highest degree.
What I find amusing though is that this is usually the case with japanese impots, european cars are usually untouched and domestics are almost immune to the cops’ eyes.
I’ve witnessed loud ass 350block camaros with loud aftermarket headers and big dual pipes in end roaring like mad in front of cops, and nothing happened… Any import on the other hand can be imported for almost a frickin sticker.
Classics Cars man, Cops love them, its like Catnips to Cats. Where as import cars are like Mice to Cats. I dont think ive ever seen a Old School vette or Mustang get anything besides a parking ticket.
In the case of “SS GDBF”, I would definatly say that he was pulled over for that aftermarket aero kit. Now, my car is completely stock on the exterior (except mudflaps, being a bit low, and a exhaust). I was pulled over and “warned” about these mods. He told me he could be writing tickets to me that day if he was in the mood. I did absolutly NOTHING wrong, I was being passed and going about 3km over the limit (63 in a 60), he just stayed on my ass for about 3kms then flicked on the lights. Sure, let the completely rotted ford astro with the exhaust not even secured at the end and a packing tape secured passenger side mirror cruise by at 10+ over the speed limit, and run a yellow/red. Then throw on your lights behind me and make me sit and wait. 15mins Late for work, not only did he cost me time but money as well. This is complete bullshit, and it cannot continue. I have never and will never street race, nor will I feel sorry for anyone that does it. If you want to take the risk, fine, thats on you. What they are doing is completely wrong and it needs to be stopped. I was lucky I didnt get a MTO inspection THIS time, but who knows what the next day holds. This whole situation is making me sick to my stomach, when you are actually afraid to take your pride and joy out on the road even just to head to work, that is a very, very sad day indeed.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3179768
I am scared to bring my car out to say the least
^I read all that, f’en assholes
we need something happening, i mean we need to really team up with all the local forums, groups, clubs, etc… and talk shit to the MPs big time, I mean BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG time. I’m getting more and more pissed reading more stories of people being pulled over for frickin air filters and other ‘suspecting racing mods’ what bullshit.
Why don’t they just ban the automotive industry and tell us to buy GEOs?! Or how about people who own z06s, or how about people who own ferraris or lambos? How about pulling THEM over for owning 500+HP ‘road legal’ cars with tires as wide as all our tires, with suspensions as rough or rougher than ours, engines and exhausts ten times louder and more ‘signature’ noticeable than ours and ACTUAL performance that has more ‘potential for racing’ than ours. Bigger engines, louder engines, more powerful engines, more fuel eating and polluting engines?
Nothing but a load of bullshit and horseshit mixed in a dirty ol’ pot.
I know this is a repost but who the fuck would have an interior like this anyways:
A frickin saturn ion lmao. That’s probably been sponsored by reactive and canadian tire.
This is like fast and furious police version gone retarded, in fact that pictured garbage looks more like what a cop car looks inside than any of our cars. I hate all thse bullshit movies that are coming out lately as well such as redline, it only makes us look even more moronic and give more reason to get scrutinized for having sports cars, modified cars, etc…
Not to mention the fact that the cars that ACTUALLY crash or were in accidents were mama boys n girls driving their mommy vans and shitty unsafe vehicles.
All their arguments are bs in the end. How is a car that has UPGRADED suspension, brakes, and a plathora of upgraded/new/improved parts going to be LESS safe than 15, 20 year or even 5 year old inferior parts?
OBVIOUSLY a mini van or other crappy econo regular cars are going to flip even at LOW BELOW city car speeds if pushed the wrong way. But how about ferraris? Lambos? Lotuses? How about then our cars which have been IMPROVED. A car that is upgraded in other words will be SAFER and more STABLE, etc… BETTER in every way.
I mean heck, here I am thinking we should go to our MPs to ask that the speed limit on highways be increased to 120km/hr as opposed to 100km/hr which was established in the stone age when cars wobbled and flipped at those highway speeds in a straight line, but nope, instead here we are being surrounded by retarded arguments and politically oriented purposes.
Cars are SAFER and BETTER at higher speeds than they were 50 years ago. The only problem is bad untrained, unexperienced drivers. The rest of the world kicks ass when it comes to road rules, BETTER frickin roads as opposed to rotten hole filled crap we have, LESS accidents, FASTER BETTER AND SAFER drivers unlike our local 90 year old “leme look through that steering wheel” drivers and FASTER roads, the LIST goes on.
No one is even advocating for street racing, thats fast and furious crew and the new to be redline fanboys… but ALL of their arguments are nothing but trash.
Not to mention cops are not certified mechanics to even UNDERSTAND anything that’s on a car. This… I don’t know, I could rant on forever. Plain and simple, all the local clubs and forums have to unite or form some kind of union and protest at this bullshit. I’m serious. This is utter trash.
I mean I was pretty pissed hearing about the bill about changing the import laws to 20 years (what non-sense, how can a 20 yera old car be MORE safe or EXEMPT from safety than a 15 year old car. How about changing the laws to TEN years since logically newer cars would be SAFER and BETTER engineered, and in better condition than say a 15 or better yet a 20 year old car).
This is nothing but greedy money rape and politics. All of it! It’s making me hate even have a car… and I DON’T race on the road, and I am a very very cautious driver, my eyes are all over the place at all times when I drive, left, right, blind spots, front and rear, every half a second looking absolutely everywhere… never ever putting other drivers at risk or danger, as I thread carefully on public roads being aware of all the cars and pedestrians on the roads and off the roads… all the signs and road conditions…
This is nothing but civil rights rapes ever since the consrevative government came into power, its not just even cars but of course here the issue is cars…there’s so many other things, all in all trying to ass kissingly follow the footsteps of the US in civil rights destructions; all money and politics oriented.
Edit: I like what this one guy said its so true:
Pulling over for a car that ‘looks like its going to go racin’ is bull. Its no different then racial profiling. You ‘fit the look’, so they treat you like a criminal.
If they want to do any REAL police work, go catch stinking drunks , rapists and murderers! I have no respect for cops anymore, it’s just politics. AND I used to want to be a cop, I was going to do the tests a year ago… I was fit enough physically at the time, but certain things changed my mind. After actually dealing with cops (just in general, me being innocent) I noticed how power hungry and crooked most of them are, rarely do I meet nice cops.
Another thing. JUST IMAGINE, all these years how many taxes, duties, import tarifs and whatnot the government earned from the automotive tuner and aftermarket industry.
So we paid well and paid money we did. Now IMAGINE, all that hard earned money that was spent by us (again taxes, etc…) is being stolen back… AND we have to pay MORE once again (tickets, labour, gov fees, inspections, mechanics, etc… ). Think about it…
Imagine how many tens of thousands of vehicles are upgraded/tuned/‘souped up’, and imagine how many lame tickets the government will profit on.
10,000$? HAH! SAFETY MY COCK!
I would like to know how many people died street racing in modified cars, and how many died while racing mommy’s montana. Guaranteed that they will just pull over modified cars that are speeding and call it street racing. Also guaranteed that they won’t be looking for stock vehicles that are racing.
If they are so concerned about getting cash out of drivers, why don’t they increase penalties and fines against drunk drivers, which there are pleny more of and much more dangerous than street racers?
The media also isn’t exactly helping. The media is almost always pro-government in ever so many issues… and when the media strikes off a good deal (a story that they build up to ever reaching sky limits), they don’t stop and suddenly change their position, instead they push further and further regardless how minor or irrelavent something may be until it’s BURNED INTO someone’s eyes and brain to be ‘important’ or relavent or serious. Likewise as ACTUAL issues the media can undermine or minimize if wanting to. Such as making ‘street racing’ the headlines and make it seem like a gazillion ppl die all the time and they all have ‘souped up’ cars. FACT: they are mostly all mama vans and in that 5 year period there was like on average if we calculate thus 5 incidents a year. If we check ACTUAL more important dangers, we’ll see drunk people are more of a concern, unsafe minivans and crapmobiles are a bigger concern. Another example of downplaying issues. How about the 40,000 deaths in an earthquake in Bam, Iran a few years ago. HELLO? 40,000 people in an instant dead, 30,000 injured, 70,000 left homeless and the whole ancient city destroyed in the 6.5 richter scale earthquake. NO ONE EVEN KNOWS THESE THINGS! There was little to any or should I say NO coverage, just mention!
Ah well, all this late late late night or shall I say early morning ranting and spouting will do no good ine the end. We need to make action and write letters, speak up, organize events and unite against this non-sense. It’s absolute sophism, abuse of civil rights, abuse of the constitution even, using ever so many law statements to justify things that the laws were not even meant to justify.
For example even stating to the cops ‘do real cop work such as catch murderers’, lawyers and cops alike will play on words and say “racers are murderers”, pardon me, “oh I mean they can be murderers they put others in danger.”, who are these racers, “uuh anyone we see as potentially a racer”, how do you determine that? “Uh, we are cops we know, we are the law”. Screw you buddy, “YOURE UNDER ARREST FOR INSULTING ME OMG”
I agree, action needs to be taken. We cannot sit back and let this happen. This will and has already started to get out of hand. I am actually scared to drive to work everyday since I got the “warning” from the cop on Mavis road in Sauga. I personally hate street racing and anyone that does it, why are the innocent being picked on? Unless the person is; a) speeding, b) exibiting poor driving habits, or c) caught racing, I dont see how a car with an exhaust or lowered suspension is anymore likely to be a street racer then a 17 year old in his parents BMW. The cop that pulled me over saw me comming in the other direction in large group of traffic, he instantly pulled a U-turn and worked his way thru all the cars until he got up behind me, then just followed for 3km’s until he decided to throw on his lights. My cars exterior is completely stock aside from Rally Armor mudflaps. I doubt he heard me at first considering I was in 5th cruising at around 2200rpm. Maybe the Subaru is a bit of a cop magnet just because of the stock hood and spoiler, but I dont think that is enough reason to waste my time and follow me for 3km.
just drive slow
tried that… doesnt work
ridiculous…time to make movements.
I’m sure that every one of those guys that got busted with the MTO crap has an aftermarket exhaust or some body kit or it’s slammed to the ground… maybe even all of the above.
Cops not knowing their asses from a hole in the ground when it comes to cars is nothing new.
Back in the day, when I first heard about “woodbridge” I went to check out some races. Not being a dumbass, I parked my car a good distance away in a parking lot. I start walking over, 2 dumbasses in Mustangs were doing massive burnouts. Within seconds I saw the cops coming. So I walked back to my car, and sat on the hood having a smoke and watching the action.
Sure enough the cops came into the parking lot. Right away they were in my face, trying the whole “we know what you did, so why don’t you come clean?” And I was being very polite … very, considering. Sure enough a second unit rolls in, and out comes the giant-size dentist mirror.
The first guy tells me they’ve tried to be nice. Now please open my hood.
So I do.
By the way, this was my '71 Javelin. 100% stock at the time, except for an intake manifold, and red shag seat covers. Previous owner had a welding “oops”.
Heh. He stumbled a bit when he obviously had no idea what he was looking at. So he starts rattling off everything the car doesn’t have - PCV (it was there, just on that car, it goes up to the underside of the air cleaner from the valve cover), EGR (didn’t exist) disabled power steering (manual rack) then his numbnut partner calls out “No catalytic!”
I had a powered subwoofer in the car. It was a cheap ass Bass Cannon a la Canadian Tire special. It had a light up switch.
“We got nitrous!”
So he takes that as a cue to “rip me a new one” and ask me if I have any explanation.
“it’s a '71 and the switch is for my stereo”
“So you think that you can just get away with it, and we wouldn’t know?”
(partner laughing)
“No, you’re just wrong, sir.”
The debate raged for a few more minutes, I’m told to get my paperwork and stay in the car until they’re ready for me.
So I did.
A third car pulls up, the supervisor. Thankfully he was over 40, and had half a brain.
He told me that I should know better than hanging around where this stuff was going on, said I could go, gave me back my papers, and off I went.
Had he not rolled up I would have had a few tickets to fight. Sure I would have won, but I’m not going to be compensated for my time. Say they impounded my car on the spot. Sure, I would eventually win, but the hassle could easily be avoided.
Hell I should rent myself out to Metro/Peel for an education seminar
^^^ Renting yourself out would be a really good idea. I think the cops need to learn a thing or two.
Someone had mentioned earlier about this being a charter violation? Regarding suspi cion of street racing. Without looking at the legislation, I’d tend to agree. The fact is though, nobody who gets a ticket is going to rent a big ass lawyer to drum it up as a charter violation. If I was a multimillionaire, I might do it, but I’m not.
I’m not sure how effective a deterrant it will be, but everyone needs to start citing cops, file a grievance report with them, ask for their badge number and tell them you are going to complain for harassment if they are being a dick (once you see he is just fishing and has nothing on you, if you were speeding then don’t bother)