The Be All-End All Religion Debate Thread! version.ON-Topic

i believe u are refering to “lucy” and i know there have been many other dicoveries since they found her…
these discoveries are from bones dated b4 and after her time…
i cant actually hold up an intelligent arguement tho because ive done no research on this myself and like i stated b4 the ridiculous…

i could have had my perception skewed by professor bias

there never was, they found part of a skeleton in one place and antoher part a little bit further away but neither made a complete skeleton…so they put it together and it looked kinda funky and said “damn the missing link” later through dna testing (some sort of bone marrow testing something or other) they found they weren’t from the same animal/human but you dont’ hear about that part

the prof i had at penn state was neutal he didnt’ believe in either

wel i did go to Cal U :beer:

i think it’s funny that in order for the theory to become a fact it must be proven and everyone in the 70’s was counting on 21st century technology to prove evolution as a fact…but i guess it’s creating the opposite. but most of the text books you learn off of are still based off 1970’s way of thinking

who was your prof.?

what seems more believable tho??? ( <—not saying that “there is no god”)

a) stuff there is a little evidence of
b) things like a chick saying “i swear hunny im still a virgin i havent slept with
anyone else”, but being pregnent

hey…darth vader had no father either man

dont remember…he does actualy anthro. field work (not sure exactly what direction that work goes, not necissarily hominid evolution) and was out alot for it if that helps

if darth vador is like jesus than jesus is fiction?
or darth vador real?

i saw him at taco bell saturday night

jesus??
:eek4dance

:rofl:

no darth vader

thank god

how can you thank someone you don’t believe exists…you should be thanking lightning or goo or something…or single-celled organisms that live in primordial sludge

i think you should look at my arguments especially this one

dont really believe the bible too much but otherwise no strong opinion of whether there is a god or not
(dont really care, i live for me and help those around me whenever possible, if there is a god that doesnt like the way i live…at least i lived the way i wanted to)

(i also hoped for you to pick up on the irony of me saying “thank god”)

V.S. Ramachandran, who is the Director of the Center for Brain and Cognition, a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at the University of California, San Diego has done huge amounts of research on the subject of the brain. Although not his primary focus of his research, he found that people with epilepsy that affects a certain part of the brain (a certain part of the temporal lobes) become EXTREMELY spiritual and religious.

The next two passages are from his book “Phantoms in the Brain”:

Every medical student is taught that patients with epileptic seizures originating in this part of the brain [temporal lobes] can have intense, spiritual experiences during the seizures and sometimes become preoccupied with religion and moral issues even during the seizure-free or interictal periods.

But most remarkable of all are those patients who have deeply moving spiritual experiences, including a feeling of divine presence and the sense that they are in direct communion with God. Everything around them is imbued with cosmic significance. They may say, “I finally understand what it’s all about. This is the moment I’ve been waiting for all my life. Suddenly it all makes sense.” Or, “Finally have insight into the true nature of the cosmos.” I find it ironic that this sense of enlightenment, this absolute conviction that Truth is revealed at last, should derive from limbic structures concerned with emotions rather than from the thinking, rational parts of the brain that take so much pride in their ability to discern truth and falsehood.

Please note he is not saying there is no god… Back to what Old Dirty George thinks - believe in what you want to believe. The only issue I have is when people are sadly closed minded and ignorant as to what others believe to the point where they are hostile. I’ve been reading multiple books on Buddhism lately and so far it’s the religion that makes the most sense to me. Here’s a quote on Buddhism which shows why:

Buddhism is a path of practice and spiritual development leading to Insight into the true nature of life. Buddhist practices such as meditation are means of changing oneself in order to develop the qualities of awareness, kindness, and wisdom. The experience developed within the Buddhist tradition over thousands of years has created an incomparable resource for all those who wish to follow a path - a path which ultimately culminates in Enlightenment or Buddhahood.
Because Buddhism does not include the idea of worshipping a creator God, some people do not see it as a religion in the normal, Western sense. The basic tenets of Buddhist teaching are straightforward and practical: nothing is fixed or permanent; actions have consequences; change is possible. Thus Buddhism addresses itself to all people irrespective of race, nationality, or gender. It teaches practical methods (such as meditation) which enable people to realize and utilize its teachings in order to transform their experience, to be fully responsible for their lives and to develop the qualities of Wisdom and Compassion.
There are around 350 million Buddhists and a growing number of them are Westerners. They follow many different forms of Buddhism, but all traditions are characterized by non-violence, lack of dogma, tolerance of differences, and, usually, by the practice of meditation.

I think it’s just funny that I’ve never been approached by any Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu person to join their church. I have two more books on that religion to read (after I finish another one of Ramachandran’s books – “A Brief Tour of Human Consciou5ness”) and then I’ll pick some up about Islam. I think it’s pretty hard to say that one religion is “it” with out truly knowing anything about any other religion.

say what?

Cliffs for you:

Some people with epilepsy affecting certain parts of the brain become very religious…

Buddhism is all about being aware and accepting that you are in control of your life.

I could give two shits less about what someone else believes - believe in what you want to, just don’t be intolerant and ignorant.