Ill post pics of the plugs when I get home.
oh- ive heard of people doing this…3rd gear pull then shut the car off etc
but doesnt that hurt the motor any. I always let the car idle about 20-30seconds before shut down
Were the plugs in the car more than 3 oil changes?
Also have any adjustments been made to your car since it was tuned? Things modified or parts changed etc.? The car was tuned a year and a half ago which makes me think you’ve probably changed something since then. If you’ve changed anything the map probably needs tweaked.
Like I said before, I have these plugs. You won’t find them at a regular parts store because they’re one step colder than stock…
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but doesnt that hurt the motor any.
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no
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I always let the car idle about 20-30seconds before shut down
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why? thats 20-30 seconds of erasing what the plugs looked like under full boost/load
No nothing was added to the the car. My $ has gone towards my S2K.
The plugs probably went through 2 oil changes
Heres some pics
new
old
Well isnt that what turbo timers do…let the motor continue to pump oil through the turbo so it cools down.
the 2 middle plugs look ok, the last one’s a bit rich. also looks like u might be burning up some oil in ur cyls. have u ever changed the little plug hole gaskets in the valvecover? those start leaking after a while.
plug hole gaskets?
heres my valve cover
those 8 major holes that tie down the VC to the head?
i think he might mean the gaskets for the spark plugs. see the 4 o-ring gaskets for the plugs? it looks like they’re on the head still.
Toda makes a good point. Those commonly start to leak on Hondas and then when the car sits overnight the leak continues all night albeit very slowly and then in the morning the car doesn’t want to start. My wife’s Accord did it especially in the cold since that was just one more thing keeping it from starting easily. After I changed the valve cover gasket and spark rings it started fine. Twice I threw new plugs in it and it fired right up before I got around to changing the gaskets.
How the hell does that gasket shitting out let oil into the combustion chamber?
That keeps it out of the spark plug galley, but then the oil would need to make it’s way past the crush washer AND all of the spark plug threads…
The only thing i can see it doing is letting the spark plug galley fill with oil to the point where it creates a short @ the spark plug boot… but the tops of the plugs are clean…
I didn’t say it went in the combustion chamber. On my wifes it went in the spark well and kept the car from starting and there was hardly any oil in there…just a mm or two worth. Once running it ran perfect. I don’t know if there was any oil in his wells.
It keeps the plug from grounding properly.
It’s hard to tell from the pics but there may also be some oil on the combustion chamber side of the plugs too now that you mention it. That would be head gasket, piston ring, valve seal related if there is in fact a leak. I can’t tell for sure.
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I didn’t say it went in the combustion chamber. On my wifes it went in the spark well and kept the car from starting and there was hardly any oil in there…just a mm or two worth. Once running it ran perfect. I don’t know if there was any oil in his wells.
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i was referring to toda:
also looks like u might be burning up some oil in ur cyls. have u ever changed the little plug hole gaskets in the valvecover? those start leaking after a while.
but if you look at the pics of the plugs there is not really any oil on the upper portion of the plugs anyway…
You’re right about it not grounding though, but i do not think this is the case, here.
Yea that may not be relevent here. When I pulled the plugs out of my wife’s car there was hardly any oil in the wells so you didn’t see oil on the top side, only the threads and lower portion of the plugs since in the process of pulling them out it ran from the crush washer down. Basically the oil wasn’t really getting into the combustion chamber from that seal leaking, but it was getting on that part of the plugs during install or removal.
my spark plug hole gasket thingys leak a little too. theres some oil in the galley, but she ALWAYS starts right up
If it started leaking after the last set of plugs went in you’re ok. It’s when you put the next set in that oil gets on the grounding surface that you have a problem.
gotcha, I could definitely see how that would cause a problem
When I did the Timing belt install on the teg I replaced a lot of gaskets/seals…including cam seal which was kind of a PITA. But im pretty sure, 99% sure I replaced the 4 spark plug seals.
Yea the plugs arent oily, just dirty with carbon.