I really need better seat belts/harness for drifting. I’d rather not swap seats just yet. I’m looking for maybe a 4 point harness, but isn’t the proper way to install them is to have a cage installed? I defiantly don’t want a cage, but I have seen some cars with the bar that goes across the B-pillar and the harness attaches to that. But I also want the B-pillar bar removable quickly (pins ect) because I’ll only use it for when I bring it to the track.
4 point harnesses in general are a bad idea because you’ll submarine right under the lap belt in a front end wreck and all that force gets put on your organs and not your hips.
Any harness’s shoulder straps need to be properly attached to a bar behind the seat (close behind the seat).
Problem: Harness keeps you upright in the seat in all circumstances. Factory 3 pt lets you slide out of the way. So when your roof and pillars collapse in on you in a roll or hard side hit, you’ll be sitting there, upright, supporting the roof with your spine.
Seats do more for supporting the driver than just harnesses do btw.
Ok, so what do you suggest I do? The car is my summer daily and I don’t feel like changing out seats just for an event, but won’t mind swapping belts/harness.
When I went to AIS I found myself holding onto the shifter and steering wheel way to hard and sometimes a sharp turn would make me push the shifter out of gear. When I rode in another car that had a 4 point harness I felt more secure.
I’d personally keep the money and use the stock stuff. Seats/harnesses/roll cage/etc are designed to function together. Just my $.02. Lots of people use harnesses on stock seats, dont crash, and never have any problems.
I would change how you’re driving the car. Dont brace yourself using the shift lever, in fact, I wouldnt hold on to it at all except for when you’re shifting. Try ‘locking’ your seatbelt when you strap in or move the seat back, strap in, then move it forward to hold your body in place. You can get lots of support from just doing that.
I’d get a good fixed back seat before getting harnesses. A good seat will make a world of difference. After you get a seat if you still need it get a harness bar and harness
Fixed backs are perfectly comfortable if you get the right ones. I had a Tom Motorsporst carbon fixed back in my hatch for a while 4-5 hours drives were just as comfy as a stock seat